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from: David Aubrey <triummph@hotmail.com>
date: Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 7:01 AM
subj: Stan Anderson /Gold wing
Good morning Arthur
Was hoping too talk with you yesterday .
I saw that you started filling the roof that I left out for you ?
On Subject of Stan Anderson's Gold wing.
I believe Stan will be dropping off his goldwing for service some time today.
I'm going to send him a email this am letting him know that i will not be there.
That if and when he drops off the Goldwing please place it out of the way
Thank you ..
Note I believe it is general service for the motorcycle " tune up '' lubrication etc
That I started the work on Mikes home this weekend and
want to focus on getting the Interior painted.
There is a lot of ground to cover inside painting.
that it is needed too get the house on the Market.
Please let me know , if there is something you need at this moment ..
I left The staging up in the back so that we could fill in the pointing
on the chimney .. The mix has to be dry and damp " not loose too point it
" if you feel so inclined .. but will due if not ..
Note that there should be enough shingle left over to fill in ..
If that is what you want ?
" please place my meat in the freezer and toss the chickens .. "
sorry about the food "
David Aubrey
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from: arthur m coucouvitis <arthur@firmfriends.us>
to: David Aubrey <triummph@hotmail.com>
date: Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 6:14 PM
subj: Re: Stan Anderson /Gold wing
Hi Dave
you wrote: I started the work on Mike's home
thanks for the heads-up about where you are.
glad you can help Mike.
sorry about not being available while you were here yesterday
it was one of those days when 3,4 friends called....
re: filling in the roof
i have no idea how long before the garage will be built,
have my doubts about having that transition in before the snow flies
and don't want to leave that part of the roof bare all that long.
it's only 2,3 nails / shingle with scrap as a temporary cover.
re: tune up, lubrication... of Stan's Gold Wing
the threshold has been mangled, the gray paint is discolored,
i never wanted a bike shop on that wooden floor
and cannot justify spending the $$ to refinish
or repair what oil damage is already there.
how do we repair a bent threshold ?
re: something you need at this moment
it would be nice if the chimney gets pointed,
by someone who knows what they're doing.
rather than me screwing it up by trying to do something i've never done
wouldn't have thought twice about it in my younger days
so i guess this is something i have to admit is due to 'old age'.
re: meat in the freezer
done
and chicken is taken care of, too
ps. it's after 6, no Stan or Gold Wing,
maybe he decided to wait until you are here...
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from: David Aubrey <triummph@hotmail.com>
to: arthur m coucouvitis <arthur@firmfriends.us>,
Hershell Norwood <hnorwood42@yahoo.com>,
Deidra <deirinct@yahoo.com>,
Mike the fat rat <ironsides@comcast.net>,
Jim Watkins <jimjiwat@yahoo.com>
date: Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 1:28 AM
subj: Re: Stan Anderson /Gold wing
Dear Arthur
I told you during last week that I had planned on doing work on Mikes house
during the coming week?
If You genuinely listen to me , or respected me you would have know this fact.
Available for me ? really Arthur. Judge .yet ye not be judged..
Refilling the roof is from your lack of planning....and is not my fault
even though i expressed this during it being left out .. but feel as though
that it should be done properly " pre Modonna comment or not "
Stans Anderson's Bike and other work that I have already discussed with you.
and you never said a word till now ?
The threshold was the trike goldwing and you and I both placed it in the
building " one " Never really wanted it to be in there at that time,
But believe I did pay your part of that money that I was paid two hundred
dollars of that i gave you fifty dollars ?
Two : I brang it too your attention during its removal ?
and it is a issue now ? even though we discussed a remedy for its repair
" need to get you some hearing aids"
some memory games .. Honestly arthur ..
"Me trying to be light hearted when you stab me in the back "
The oil stains are not oil stains first of all. and they are not were any bike
was stored or worked on ..One: and it can be cleaned off showed Jim Watkins
" that it was not oil " .. floor needed to be painted before
i was there . Wich I would have had no problem helping you mend or rectify ..
Again I have check those stains and they were not all oil stains ,,
and any oil that was spilt was cleaned up at that time .. "
you acting like this is not what you agreed too ,, but that is not all true ...
there is a lot we both never agreed too .. but i was true to my word ,,
now it is your turn Arthur ?
These things should be discussed in person .But you did not "
you waited till i was away" ...and with a reasonable person
whom has got his part of the agreement." this would be you Arthur "
" renogotaiting the terms Now ,is going back on you word and agreement ..
I wish you would not move or touch my stuff or go through it while im away ,
That is my wish .. I earned my keep there and expect to be treated with that
due respect ..
so please stop going through my stuff .. i will only ask you once .. and
will take as a invasion of my personal property .."
i do not pry through your personal paperwork .. so with due respect ,,
please do not do it to me .. And if I'm mistakin I will apologise ..
I have no problems repairing and repointing of the chimney "
even though I never agreed to it , But with out being able to make money
Repairing motorcycles and not having money to eat and survive"
you are leaving not many choices of defense or action ..
this is not very Honorable Arthur ?
Arthur you make me nervouse .. Im on edge with you constantly .
you get angry and attack my person reputation and dignity ..
and you do no respect or see it .. hell you wont admit when your wrong
and you expect me to apologise for your lack of compassion or empathy.
" I was very embarressed to this outburst in front of you guest
you were entertaining " Hershal "
I know you do not like the word Entertaining , but know no other to use ,,
and no disrespect Arthur Im just trying to communicate ..
The other week you wasted my whole day , with your refusal to get the brake
I asked .. yelling at me being a pre Maddona ..
How many brake have you used ? how many house's have you trimmed .. "
please note this was never apart of our original agreement.
You have not even given me the rest of the money I asked you and we agreed too ?
You Telling me your on a budget that you cant withdraw ..
This maybe be But feel over whelmed with your judgment ..
"honestly" By atritioning my ability to provide for my self
when that was always the root of our agreement is unrespectful and
down right fraud to me ..
Im not playing any games hear .. I now you act like I threaten you when I due
speak back towards you and the attrition you present .. but never entended
to be intimidated or intimidate you , I Just want the same respect to express
my views of the situation ....But I do not want to be threatened ,
scammed after my completion of your roof ...and that is how Im kinda taking
this...but i guess i could be wrong ?
This does not have to be. I have done everything I said I would due ,
with conviction and craftsmanship , More than I ever agree too..
even though you treat me with malice and contempt .. speaking with
James watkins about the stains ..
Arthur you have set out to ruin a good friendship...
And I ask you for what reason?
I had no clue except too make me miserable so I would move on ..is my belief.
I will be coming back sooner because of this , this needs to be settled Arthur ..
i will not worry when you have been paid in full .. this is all unnessary grief
.. that i due not deserve or can not afford since my completion of the roof
and trim, decking replacement , insulation I have allways been your friend ,,
would never be upset if you asked me for a cigerret or food ..
Im trying not to be hasty ,but worked all day and cannot sleep because of this ..
this is not fair and will not be bullied by you .. or intimidated " note
this is not a threat to your well being , but a action to end all arguments
and settle this once and for all so that we all can get what we all desired
too achieve.. out of this .. including you Arthur .. Me , JIm , motorcycle
repair and stan and brain and others that i have tried to line up for needed ..
I may have said to much , but would rather say it ,
than never get the chance to say before all my faith is lost..
David Aubrey
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from: arthur m coucouvitis <arthur@firmfriends.us>
to: Dia.Dave Aubrey <triummph@hotmail.com>
cc: Mike Carpenter <ironsides@comcast.net>,
deidre <deirinct@yahoo.com>,
Hershell Norwood <hnorwood42@yahoo.com>
date: Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 2:05 PM
subj: Re: Stan Anderson /Gold wing
King Guy,
you are the one who has developed this strong disrespect.
when i gently offered you my home
as a place to stay "for a while"
you said that kind of trust was sacred to you.
i offered you a peaceful place to stay and
we both enjoyed 'getting to know" each other for a while
now i'm a prisoner w/o peace in my own home !
i marveled when i watched you tell Raymond Dave
(as he was getting in your car for a ride home)
"you don't have to be rude about it."
he wasn't rude - YOU were!
you ignored him
when he was trying to communicate that he was ready to go home.
you wrote: I told you during last week that I had planned on doing work on Mikes house
fine, but that was a week earlier - i AM forgetful - you know that
i was just thanking you for letting me know
(after 3 days of wondering where you were bcs i forgot, yes - mea culpa)
you wrote: work that I have already discussed with you. and you never said a word till now ?
email is the only way to 'say a word' without you getting in my face,
i've had enough of that
you wrote: believe I did pay you part of that money
yes, when i wanted to be part of helping that friend,
you locked me out by 'paying' me $20, when i didn't want it.
re: I [ brought the dented threshold ] to your attention during its removal
you are as honest as they come, Dave
i appreciate and will always attest to that
you wrote: Refilling the roof is from your lack of planning....and is not my fault
of course it's not your fault
nobody knows what will be needed before getting into the work
who can 'plan' on cooked plywood w/o propa-venting under 2 layers of shingles?
your words: "i let the work dictate what needs to be done"
no way anyone, you OR me, can plan around that!
> These things should be discussed in person.
> But you did not " you waited till i was away"
right on both counts,
and as i wrote above - i've had enough
you wrote: renegotiating the terms Now ,is going back on you word and agreement
i'm not renegotiating
i'm telling you that this has lasted far too long.
i gave you refuge bcs it was winter
go back to your trailer - it's summer
> wasted my whole day , with your refusal to get the brake I asked
get real, Dave - calling that a 'refusal' is a huge distortion.
i have neither the experience nor the eyes to recognize
which of 4 Taylor rental brakes was the one we got the first time...
you wrote:
> I wish you would not move or touch my stuff
> so please stop going through my stuff
i heard that complaint enough times to steer clear
i do not go through your stuff while you are out,
if that thought crosses your mind,
you have lost the trust that staying here requires
you wrote: repairing and repointing of the chimney " even though I never agreed to it
you saw that as soon as you got up there.
you said it should be done,
you want to do it right,
and i have bought lumber and ladder and all the other stuff
as & when needed per your expertise.
you wrote: You have not even given me the rest of the money I asked you and we agreed too ?
you asked for $1000 ! 2 months after saying (correctly) "i didn't sign up for this"
there was no negotiation, i accept that you deserve payment,
but i live on $2000 / mo
i gave you $300 out-of-pocket
another $400 by making a withdrawal
against the balance needed to pay credit card purchases.
purchases made 4-6 weeks ago so that you could do the job right.
those un-planned bills for material are expenses
that $$ have to be there to pay
i paid another $100 (out of the blue) so that you could get your license.
and, yes!, i have to wait for a monthly savings withdrawal to come up with the remainder
you WILL get the remaining $200
you wrote: I may have said too much
you've said far more than needed,
but thank you, far better in email than 'in my face'.
no way to address all the things you say in a conversation,
hopefully i've addressed most of the things you've brought up
and since you decided to make 'our business' - their business,
please get some of this cleared up by talking w Mikey
i'm not CCing Jim,
tho i will ask he wants to see this reply
and will send it to him if he wants.
you wrote: make me miserable so I would move on
your misery is my misery,
i never saw it coming
and would not have offerred to let you stay, if i had.
you've been here 5 months - that's alone is worth a couple of grand,
i've got an un-planned new roof
it seem that we both got something out of it
and lost something (more important) bcs of it.
in a previous email you wrote: this is not working
i agree, and i am tired of "the beatings will continue until morale improves"
it's time to move on
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from: arthur
date: 7/21/2017 6:24 AM
First,
Mike - thank you so much for giving David something to do.
after almost a week of sweet silence, solitude and peace
i could not sleep this morning, thinking this might be the day it ends.
David, please, accept my resignation.
i thank you for doing the roof and all that trim
but i don't want you to even visit except for
as long as it takes to load & leave.
no more rants, accusations or justifications.
when you come here, i will do my best to keep it civil and easy-going
but if you start yelling at me or dish out any kind of verbal abuse
i will call the cops.
since you've been here,
i've been verbally threatened by you way too many times
and felt physically threatened,
when you followed a foot behind me - yelling and accusing.
this is my home, you have no right to destroy my peace & quiet
(and i say that, knowing that i let you do that for all this time)
i'm really sorry for being SO helpful that we un-loaded your trailer - here.
please get your motorcycles, tools, clothes, food out of here.
this is not your shop;
this is not your storage facility.
i know very well you don't want me going thru your stuff.
don't make me - get your things out of here during the next 30 days,
arthur
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from: Ironsides
date: Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 9:28 AM
Arthur
I have been trying to avoid jumping in on this but I can see emotions
are running high and both parties feel slighted. As I have no emotional
attachment to this perhaps I can lend some assistance in reaching an
amicable resolution.
Let me first ask you; from your perspective what was your agreement with Dave
for him to stay there?
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from: arthur
date: 7/21/2017 10:15 AM
hello Mike
there was never any agreement.
i gave him a ride in the dead of winter
and bcs i saw him living in the front 5 ft of his box trailer,
i offered, when we got to my home, "you could stay here for a while"
a couple of weeks ago, he told me - he did NOT ask!
"i need a couple of more months, maybe 2 1/2"
and my eyes went wide in surprise
and i told him then & there
"i offered to let you to stay a while - NOT 6 months"
it would not have come to this, if he weren't so abusive
but if you ask him,
he'll give a 100 reasons why i am at fault - it's his modus-operandi.
and that abuse is why ANY agreement he thinks exists - is Null & Void
Terminated !
i'm too old and peace-loving for that.
i do not deserve the abuse,
and i chose not to accept it any longer.
resorting to the cops, is not a threat - i don't want to got there
but i stated clearly the terms of this unilateral "agreement"
going forward, it is load & leave,
do it with civility or don't come onto the property
if any thing could be called an unwritten agreement
it is that i happily accepted his offer to re-roof the house
i did not know he had been a roofer when i invited him to stay
and i've been paying dearly every step of the way.
hell, i more than paid in full, if you add all the rides i gave
and the shelter that any apt. rental would have cost him
that's far more than what he thinks ?!?i owe him!?!
and i've paid triple that in abuse - i am done.
case closed.
you wrote: perhaps I can lend some assistance
nobody can 'fix' what he has done to me.
he is not the victim,
he thinks his good work makes me beholden ?
i'm sorry - i just got out of jail
i'm not letting him take me "prisoner in my own home" again
and i am NOT saying that in anger
i do admire his talent, as an artist, as a can-do mechanic
and a self-educated historian and philosopher.
i might try to be a friend -
but "roommate/housemate" - forget it
never again
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from: Ironsides
date: Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:41 AM
Arthur
Your response begs me to ask, Just how much/what value in $$ do you put
on renting a room in your home for 5 months?
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from: arthur m coucouvitis <arthur@firmfriends.us>
to: Ironsides <ironsides@comcast.net>
cc: Dave Aubrey <triummph@hotmail.com>,
deidra <deirinct@yahoo.com>,
Hershell Norwood <hnorwood42@yahoo.com>
date: Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 5:00 PM
subj: Re: going forward
sorry Mike,
that is NOT an option.
how can you ask !?!
when i have made it so plainly clear:
i will not put myself thru
another minute of what's been going for way-too-long
